From cinelerra-admin@skolelinux.no Sat Mar 29 20:46:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cinelerra@e.kevb.net Delivered-To: cinelerra@e.kevb.net Received: from init.linpro.no (init.linpro.no [80.232.38.252]) by e.kevb.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846F2EE0CBC for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=init.linpro.no) by init.linpro.no with esmtp (Exim 4.50 #1 (Debian)) id 1JflfL-000674-2W; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:44:59 +0100 Received: from [193.69.32.11] (helo=virusvask01.itsjefen.no) by init.linpro.no with esmtp (Exim 4.50 #1 (Debian)) id 1JfldP-00064V-8j for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:43:00 +0100 Received: from [193.69.32.11] by 80.232.38.252 (e-nough); Sun, 30 Mar 01:37:22 2008 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by virusvask01.itsjefen.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60B58AC053 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:42:48 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at virusvask01.itsjefen.no Received: from virusvask01.itsjefen.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (virusvask01.itsjefen.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MbFQE4F6RbBt for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:42:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from relay.itsjefen.no (relay.itsjefen.no [195.204.155.6]) by virusvask01.itsjefen.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C658AC04E for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:42:44 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 8487 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2008 01:42:44 +0100 Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (217.72.192.234) by relay.itsjefen.no with SMTP; 30 Mar 2008 01:42:44 +0100 Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647E9D4FC859 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:42:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [85.178.206.7] (helo=[85.178.206.7]) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.109 #226) id 1JfldD-0002v9-00 for cinelerra@skolelinux.no; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:42:43 +0100 Message-ID: <47EEE1DF.10103@web.de> From: Andreas Hermann Braml User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080227) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Subject: Re: [CinCV] Getting Involved for the GUI? References: <1206710218.6219.23.camel@joel-desktop> <1206727859.6219.62.camel@joel-desktop> <47EEA84B.50705@ichthyostega.de> In-Reply-To: <47EEA84B.50705@ichthyostega.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBD7D4B676FF7469B630A92BB" X-Sender: a.strich.b@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/uQkxKbpq4AU9P4M3dKG2sKZH590fi86w+Pzaz IqIZuRK3KdriyC+QNhCNPjA9MlHqMBlVTNwwtTOzW6FTGoPpy2 spojmHVSw= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on spamtrap X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=DSPAM=0 version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: X-DSPAM-Signature: !DSPAM:47eee0c6143255800462146! X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Sender: cinelerra-admin@skolelinux.no Errors-To: cinelerra-admin@skolelinux.no X-BeenThere: cinelerra@skolelinux.no X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mailinglist for Cinelerra, the community version List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:42:07 +0100 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBD7D4B676FF7469B630A92BB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi ichthyo, Ichthyostega wrote: > [...] > We have put > up the requirement, that everything within the session (edit operations= , rendering) > must work in "headless" operating mode, i.e. script driven, without a G= UI. So everyone > working on the GUI will have to cooperate with the people working at th= e backend layer > or the proc layer and agree on suitable interfaces for doing things and= exchange data. > So, basically, for Lumiera you can't just /contribute/ to the GUI, rath= er, we need > people willing to lay the foundations and shape the GUI from scratch. (= And this > includes the decision what GUI framework to use) Doesn't that mean that the choice of the GUI framework (=3Dtoolkit?) to use is not that important, since the core is not tied to the GUI, but just interacts with it via clearly defined interfaces? Or am I totally wrong here? Perhaps you mean: those who write the /first/ GUI decide what interfaces they need and how those should be structured, but that does not prevent other GUIs to be written on top of the core layers, using another toolkit, as long as they use the interfaces. Or am I oversimplifying matters here? > For Lumiera, we *do* have lots of drafts, plannings, documentation (and= even some > code ;-) ). So, most important, if interested: speak up, ask questions,= ask for pointers! > See: http://www.pipapo.org/pipawiki/Lumiera/QuickStart I started to work those through, and although I don't understand C/C++ sufficiently - yet - the concepts accumulated in the first design drafts are fascinating, even for me that I usually just do the video editing, not the coding. 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