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( [88.157.243.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j8sm10920261gvb.7.2008.03.16.09.42.01 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:42:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Leandro Ribeiro To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Subject: Re: [CinCV] Idea for logo try 2 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 20070904.708012) References: <47D91965.8090501@gmail.com> <1205521346.5909.25.camel@charly> In-Reply-To: <1205521346.5909.25.camel@charly> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803161643.11210.leandroribeiro@gmail.com> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on spamtrap X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=DSPAM=0 version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: X-DSPAM-Signature: !DSPAM:47dd4d52126843650119990! X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Sender: cinelerra-admin@skolelinux.no Errors-To: cinelerra-admin@skolelinux.no X-BeenThere: cinelerra@skolelinux.no X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mailinglist for Cinelerra, the community version List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:43:11 +0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > A contest usually means that everyone feels the need to submit already > refined work (because others do ...). But starting with sketches and > going through several iterations with feedback is more efficient. I've been thinking about this and I got myself agreeing with you before I read your email. I decided to abandon the contest idea and embrace the brainstorm one. That's why I decided to work on a set of logos I got in my mind, and send them so that others can see and send theirs or use mine to create new ones. But I don't think that we should just try to work on the first "logo concept" that appears. A logo is something that either clicks or it doesn't, so we should have alot of people just submiting different shapes, typesets, etc, until one of those... clicks :) > A contest often leads to a decision between different designs where more > variation of one design might yield a better result. I agree. When a friend of mine, who is a designer, is hired to work on a company logo he thinks of many shapes and works on many variations of the same shape: a dot here instead of there, many colors, etc. He isn't the one who picks the final product: he presents everything to the client and then the client chooses. Here, the client and the designer are the community. > How about anyone who likes submits proposals and we discuss them. Once > something satisfies enough of the right people, it is adopted. It still > can be replaced if something better comes up, especially as the project > will not need or have broad public exposure for quite a while. Agree. > I wonder if you have any idea of what you are asking for here. One step > at a time, you just can't jump to the top of a mountain. A good logo > will be a nice starting point for the rest, but there's no need to > define all that in advance. "Submit several months worth of work or > don't bother at all" is nothing you should ask from volunteers in > open-source projects. I didn't explained myself here. My fault :) I don't want people submiting websites, of course. My idea was: please think of the usability of your proposals before you submit them. For example: you can have a great image, with a lot of detail, but will that work as an icon? The idea is not to have a compatible website ready, but to ask yourself: will this work in a given website? Sorry for the mess in going into this subject :) _______________________________________________ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra